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Re: Rosehips

Erik and Maizey aka crazy Maizey
 

Some say, this can or could. “This isn’t the case for most buns.”

just giving an overprotective/paranoid worst case scenario. 


Re: Rosehips

David L. Fisher
 

Hmm, does this refer to dried rosehips or just fresh?  I got some dried rosehips which my bunnies love to munch on as a treat, and they didn't cause any issues.

Dave


On 6/7/2021 11:59 AM, hopefullysomedaysoon@... wrote:
Some say the seeds in rosehips can get lodged in trachea or GI tract. Also, the tiny hairs inside rosehips could cause irritation within GI tract as well. This isn’t the case for most buns(obviously not yours whom have enjoyed the healthy treat for years) but may be why not advised for a developing tummy. 


Re: Rosehips

Erik and Maizey aka crazy Maizey
 

Some say the seeds in rosehips can get lodged in trachea or GI tract. Also, the tiny hairs inside rosehips could cause irritation within GI tract as well. This isn’t the case for most buns(obviously not yours whom have enjoyed the healthy treat for years) but may be why not advised for a developing tummy. 


Older neutered male rabbit humping...

sandralyngdorf
 

Dear all, 

Our 8-year old male rabbit Timothy has been humping his 8-year old wife-bun Clover relentlessly for a few months now. He also sprays all over and his thing is fully out when he tries to hump. He was neutered at the age of 4 months and she was spayed at 6 months. 

The humping is relatively new behaviour and Clover has always been alpha-bun. Most of the time, Clover allows the humping - she just goes about her business, eating etc but there are also times where she is clearly annoyed and tries to get away from him. He then chases her around. In between the humping sessions, they groom and cuddle etc. 

We have separated them with a fence a few times when the humping has gotten too intense and Clover hasnt been allowed to eat in peace. We are also a bit worried about his humping given their age.

We took Timmy to the vet a few months ago and an ultrasound was done to check if they could see any remnant of his testicles but that was not the case. We also had a blood test done to check testosterone and thyroid levels but all normal. 

Just wanted to ask if anyone had any advice or if there is anything we can do? We have another vet appointment on Friday for health checks etc. 

Thank you!

Sandra


Rosehips

motek_and_gozal
 

I have been giving rose hips as a treat for years in the hope it will help with arthritis. Not sure if it does or not, have definitely had bunnies who developed severe arthritis while on it (along with other stuff), but it seems like a healthy treat. I have a new girl, estimated age 5 months. She doesn't want apple or carrot, but loves her rose hips. I have been giving her 2 tbs. twice a day. I was looking at the binky bunny website and they say "rose hips (adult bunnies only)". Does anyone know of a reason I shouldn't give my young girl rose hips or should restrict quantities?

Thanks,

Tal


Re: welcome home new bunny

David L. Fisher
 

I am still in contact with the family, and they were very nice about bringing all her supplies, to help her feel at home.  I don't know if they were giving her greens or not, but I just looked over and she's munching on some right now, which is encouraging - and she's eating her pellets (the old stuff, which has the seeds and other "treats" that I liken to the marshmallow bits in a bowl of Lucky Charms).

Monty's pen is in the living room, the other pen is in the dining room, and there's a fence separating the two at the hallway so I know everyone is safe, until I see how Monty responds to her presence.  So far, she doesn't seem to have taken much notice to the newcomer (she's not staring her down or even hanging out where they can see each other, which is probably better for the newcomer right now).  I really don't know if Monty wants a mate (and I've had 3 bunnies here before, only the first looked like a bond might form but Tidbit started eating her fur, then plucking it right off Monty, so that was when I had to separate them and then the aggression started for both of them).

In most cases I'd be really happy to be giving a better home to a bunny, but this time I feel like it was a step down.  The family didn't feel they were giving her enough attention, but I feel a sense of loss for her.  Once I see her start to show some happy feet or something, I'll probably feel happier about it.

Dave


On 6/3/2021 7:09 PM, Emprins wrote:
Hey Dave! 

Congrats on meeting your new bunny friend! We took in Philip, our Flemmie mix, through a rehome as well, although he was being housed alone outside and the state of his nails and the laundry basket full of carrots he was given to us in hint at less than ideal care before we found him on Craigslist. 

When Philip came to us he spent a long time hiding but now he’s constantly running up to us and demanding pets with his pushy little nose. We also had Eleanor when he was rehomed and the way we handled it was by rotating the rabbits between an x-pen and being free roaming, which allowed them to get used to each other’s scents safely, and before we knew it, they were snuggled next to each other on either side of the x-pen!  Eleanor failed to bond after several months with a bunny she vibed with at an HRS bunny dating event but really took to Philip and had an easy bonding with him, so I wouldn’t worry just yet about doing a blind bonding so to speak. Bunny love is a beautiful but mysterious thing! 

If you’re still in contact with the family, I might ask if they fed her any particular treats or if they know her favorite veggie. She may just not be familiar with those foods and not yet trusting enough to try them. I would also leave them in her area if not taken immediately so she can perhaps work up to approaching them. Try to keep her on whatever pellets they were feeding her if you can, even if they’re garbage as Philip’s were, so you can gently transition to a different pellet - 1st week 7/8 old pellet and 1/8 new pellet, 2nd week 3/4 old and 1/4 new, etc. etc. 

For now just make sure she’s eating - I couldn’t tell from your message if she was - as moving is very stressful and GI stasis is a real concern. I’m sure you already know these things but it’s never hurts to be reminded. Again congrats! I’m sure you’ll find the right name for her and she’ll be a great bun friend to Monty! 

E





On Jun 3, 2021 at 6:39 PM, <David L. Fisher> wrote:

I just took in a white female New Zealand rabbit (currently only has the
name "Bunny" so I'll be working on giving her a fitting name).  One of
the neighbors posted on the nextdoor app, and it was "free rabbit" - so
I pounced to make sure she would be safe. The family actually rescued
her, had her 3 years, did try once before to place her but the other
rabbit got aggressive, and I'm just hoping that Monty will be nice to her.

It's a bittersweet thing, though - I am sad for her having to leave her
home (she had run of the place, there were 2 cats and a dog, they all
seemed to get along, but the family wasn't sure about why the rabbit was
hopping towards and then away from the dog, perhaps lunging).  I'm
hoping she settles in quickly - she is snuggly, but rather timid, so I'm
giving her some space to explore and realize that this is a good home
and she can be happy here.

I have all of her supplies from the family, and I also had already put
down food and water and greens.  I just offered her treats (raisins, 
banana) and she hasn't touched them yet, so I think she's still a bit
unsettled about the move.

Dave







Re: welcome home new bunny

Emprins
 

Hey Dave! 

Congrats on meeting your new bunny friend! We took in Philip, our Flemmie mix, through a rehome as well, although he was being housed alone outside and the state of his nails and the laundry basket full of carrots he was given to us in hint at less than ideal care before we found him on Craigslist. 

When Philip came to us he spent a long time hiding but now he’s constantly running up to us and demanding pets with his pushy little nose. We also had Eleanor when he was rehomed and the way we handled it was by rotating the rabbits between an x-pen and being free roaming, which allowed them to get used to each other’s scents safely, and before we knew it, they were snuggled next to each other on either side of the x-pen!  Eleanor failed to bond after several months with a bunny she vibed with at an HRS bunny dating event but really took to Philip and had an easy bonding with him, so I wouldn’t worry just yet about doing a blind bonding so to speak. Bunny love is a beautiful but mysterious thing! 

If you’re still in contact with the family, I might ask if they fed her any particular treats or if they know her favorite veggie. She may just not be familiar with those foods and not yet trusting enough to try them. I would also leave them in her area if not taken immediately so she can perhaps work up to approaching them. Try to keep her on whatever pellets they were feeding her if you can, even if they’re garbage as Philip’s were, so you can gently transition to a different pellet - 1st week 7/8 old pellet and 1/8 new pellet, 2nd week 3/4 old and 1/4 new, etc. etc. 

For now just make sure she’s eating - I couldn’t tell from your message if she was - as moving is very stressful and GI stasis is a real concern. I’m sure you already know these things but it’s never hurts to be reminded. Again congrats! I’m sure you’ll find the right name for her and she’ll be a great bun friend to Monty! 

E





On Jun 3, 2021 at 6:39 PM, <David L. Fisher> wrote:

I just took in a white female New Zealand rabbit (currently only has the
name "Bunny" so I'll be working on giving her a fitting name).  One of
the neighbors posted on the nextdoor app, and it was "free rabbit" - so
I pounced to make sure she would be safe. The family actually rescued
her, had her 3 years, did try once before to place her but the other
rabbit got aggressive, and I'm just hoping that Monty will be nice to her.

It's a bittersweet thing, though - I am sad for her having to leave her
home (she had run of the place, there were 2 cats and a dog, they all
seemed to get along, but the family wasn't sure about why the rabbit was
hopping towards and then away from the dog, perhaps lunging).  I'm
hoping she settles in quickly - she is snuggly, but rather timid, so I'm
giving her some space to explore and realize that this is a good home
and she can be happy here.

I have all of her supplies from the family, and I also had already put
down food and water and greens.  I just offered her treats (raisins, 
banana) and she hasn't touched them yet, so I think she's still a bit
unsettled about the move.

Dave







welcome home new bunny

David L. Fisher
 

I just took in a white female New Zealand rabbit (currently only has the name "Bunny" so I'll be working on giving her a fitting name).  One of the neighbors posted on the nextdoor app, and it was "free rabbit" - so I pounced to make sure she would be safe. The family actually rescued her, had her 3 years, did try once before to place her but the other rabbit got aggressive, and I'm just hoping that Monty will be nice to her.

It's a bittersweet thing, though - I am sad for her having to leave her home (she had run of the place, there were 2 cats and a dog, they all seemed to get along, but the family wasn't sure about why the rabbit was hopping towards and then away from the dog, perhaps lunging).  I'm hoping she settles in quickly - she is snuggly, but rather timid, so I'm giving her some space to explore and realize that this is a good home and she can be happy here.

I have all of her supplies from the family, and I also had already put down food and water and greens.  I just offered her treats (raisins, banana) and she hasn't touched them yet, so I think she's still a bit unsettled about the move.

Dave


Re: Looking for Best Carpet for our REX Bun

o o
 

Woven mats would go with a beach house vibe and can be found relatively cheaply in a variety of bun munching safe materials. Plus some are washable. 


On Jun 1, 2021, at 5:46 PM, John Gee via groups.io <johngee100@...> wrote:


Hi,

I'm glad you adopted and posted here. You could use a piece of  linoleum and fleece pads. The pads could be placed over parts of the linoleum .You may want to limit the space setup for Piper. Rabbits enjoy marking their turf with poops and chin marks You can setup rabbit space in a small part in the corner of the room.. A room allows for many hiding spots and needs to be rabbit proofed . Exposed wires need to be covered, hiding spots under furniture need to be blocked , and a rabbit should have a "home " setup . I would setup an X-pen on the linoleum & pad space with a cardboard box to hide in, a litter box, pellet bowl ,and plastic or wood chew toys. 

The linoleum should be easy to clean. The fleece pads can be washed . A piece of carpet or a towel are items rabbit chewing. Both are stringy when chewed and could become stuck in Piper's GI tract. Enjoy Piper and watch for binkies. A binky is when a house  rabbit jumps  a few inches of the floor showing happiness. 

On Monday, May 31, 2021, 11:53:25 PM CDT, <susanbsilberman@...> wrote:


Hi, I'm brand new to the group as I just adopted 3 YO Piper 7 weeks ago. Unfortunately since we've already experienced sore hocks :-( I'm very aware of how important the correct flooring is for my Rex. I'd like to put down carpet in a bedroom in a summer cottage that Piper would be freely roaming around in, and I hope someone can chime in with the best type of carpet to buy. Thanks in advance! Susan 


Re: Looking for Best Carpet for our REX Bun

John Gee
 

Hi,

I'm glad you adopted and posted here. You could use a piece of  linoleum and fleece pads. The pads could be placed over parts of the linoleum .You may want to limit the space setup for Piper. Rabbits enjoy marking their turf with poops and chin marks You can setup rabbit space in a small part in the corner of the room.. A room allows for many hiding spots and needs to be rabbit proofed . Exposed wires need to be covered, hiding spots under furniture need to be blocked , and a rabbit should have a "home " setup . I would setup an X-pen on the linoleum & pad space with a cardboard box to hide in, a litter box, pellet bowl ,and plastic or wood chew toys. 

The linoleum should be easy to clean. The fleece pads can be washed . A piece of carpet or a towel are items rabbit chewing. Both are stringy when chewed and could become stuck in Piper's GI tract. Enjoy Piper and watch for binkies. A binky is when a house  rabbit jumps  a few inches of the floor showing happiness. 

On Monday, May 31, 2021, 11:53:25 PM CDT, <susanbsilberman@...> wrote:


Hi, I'm brand new to the group as I just adopted 3 YO Piper 7 weeks ago. Unfortunately since we've already experienced sore hocks :-( I'm very aware of how important the correct flooring is for my Rex. I'd like to put down carpet in a bedroom in a summer cottage that Piper would be freely roaming around in, and I hope someone can chime in with the best type of carpet to buy. Thanks in advance! Susan 


Re: Looking for Best Carpet for our REX Bun

Diane Reyniers
 

Carpet is likely to make the hocks worse. I would go for rubber flooring or non-slip cushioned textured lino - also easy to clean. And then add soft blankets where he likes to sleep. 
Diane


From: main@etherbun.groups.io <main@etherbun.groups.io> on behalf of susanbsilberman via groups.io <susanbsilberman@...>
Sent: 01 June 2021 03:22
To: main@etherbun.groups.io <main@etherbun.groups.io>
Subject: [Etherbun Main] Looking for Best Carpet for our REX Bun
 
Hi, I'm brand new to the group as I just adopted 3 YO Piper 7 weeks ago. Unfortunately since we've already experienced sore hocks :-( I'm very aware of how important the correct flooring is for my Rex. I'd like to put down carpet in a bedroom in a summer cottage that Piper would be freely roaming around in, and I hope someone can chime in with the best type of carpet to buy. Thanks in advance! Susan 


Looking for Best Carpet for our REX Bun

susanbsilberman@...
 

Hi, I'm brand new to the group as I just adopted 3 YO Piper 7 weeks ago. Unfortunately since we've already experienced sore hocks :-( I'm very aware of how important the correct flooring is for my Rex. I'd like to put down carpet in a bedroom in a summer cottage that Piper would be freely roaming around in, and I hope someone can chime in with the best type of carpet to buy. Thanks in advance! Susan 


Hay and RHDV

Pamela Alley
 

The answer here, as practiced by those in the UK and EU where RHDV2 is endemic, is to buy far ahead of your need, and quarantine your hay for FOUR MONTHS, not less.  That means no bugs, no birds, no rodents, no contact by anything if at all possible.

For pet owners, this should be relatively simple.  Disinfect the outer packaging (make sure it doesn't have holes and be careful if it does) and store in a dim, well ventilated area.

There is no such thing as hay that is grown without any possible exposure to RHDV in an area where it is present in the wild population, so it's much better to be safe than sorry.

PA
Director, RIC
Admin for FB groups
North Americans RHDV2 Group
RHDV Information Page
Supporting the RHDV Vaccine in the US


Re: Hay from Washington

wendyandrayzer
 

On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 03:47 PM, wendyandrayzer wrote:
I just ordered Farmer Dave hay and notice that it's being shipped from Washington.  Is it safe, considering that cases of RHDV2 have been identified there?
 
Wendy

 On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 03:47 PM, wendyandrayzer wrote:
I just ordered Farmer Dave hay and notice that it's being shipped from Washington.  Is it safe, considering that cases of RHDV2 have been identified there?
 
Wendy

 I'm feeling reassured.  Here's the reply from Farmer Dave:  Not being shipped from Washington.  Shipped from North Collins, NY.  Appears the FedEx has re-used a tracking number from June 2019 by someone else.   I have alerted FedEx re this issue.   Your hay is NOT coming from the West.   Thanks, FarmerDave


Hay in Washington

Maureen Las
 

“Is hay from Washington safe?”

I don’t order from Farmer Dave, however, I have contacted several other hay companies with concern about RHD. Oxbow keeps hay several months before shipping it out . They are on top of the out break and very concerned about keeping rabbits safe. I cannot find any protocol for RHD on FarmerDave website, however , it appears that you can message them either on Facebook page or their website. In the links there is actual phone number that can be used.
If a company doesn’t respond to questions I would be leery. Any hay distributor who is not concerned about RHD is not very aware. I order from Oxbow and also have ordered from an east coast company( Sweet Meadows) . There is a Facebook group for anyone to join which is tracking the virus. Good idea to join it

Maureen Las


Re: Hay from Washington

Kinenchen
 

Many companies machine dry their hay these days; the dry heat would probably mean the hay is safe from RHDV2, but it wouldn't contain the vitamin D that sun cured hay does so you'd want a pellet that's fortified with vitamin D3. It's worth asking how they dry their hay either way.

Christie Taylor


On Sat, May 29, 2021, 3:47 PM wendyandrayzer via groups.io <wendyandrayzer=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I just ordered Farmer Dave hay and notice that it's being shipped from Washington.  Is it safe, considering that cases of RHDV2 have been identified there?

Wendy


Hay from Washington

wendyandrayzer
 

I just ordered Farmer Dave hay and notice that it's being shipped from Washington.  Is it safe, considering that cases of RHDV2 have been identified there?

Wendy


Re: Bonding and spaying

Meg Brown
 

Hi Leslie,
      I was the person who recommended waiting a minimum of a year before spaying a Flemish, as they mature more slowly than smaller breeds.

I would definitely not recommend spaying a Flemish (or any rabbit), at 18 weeks.

    I agree with Dave about waiting approximately a month post-spay before introducing to your males.
     Meg

On May 27, 2021, at 9:15 PM, David L. Fisher <dlf@...> wrote:



Hi Leslie -

I would definitely wait about a month AFTER spaying her before introductions - her hormones will affect her behavior and possibly mess up a potential bond.  She would probably also mark the males' territory (Tidbit, a direct rescue, was adamant about pooping in Monty's area in a 2-inch grid, even a month after her spay when I tried introductions) and Leeloo (a temporary foster, very recently spayed when I gave her a "soft landing") was adamant about peeing on the carpet near Monty's area.

I'm not surprised that your boys are marking - they can smell her hormones, and it's instinct even if they can't do anything about it.  This might also make them aggressive towards her if you don't wait for her hormones to subside.

I don't know who thinks 18 MONTHS is the right amount of time to wait - are you sure they weren't suggesting 18 weeks (which also sounds like more time than you need to allow).  I agree with the person who says "spay now" (and you have to get blood test results first to make sure she can have surgery first anyway).

Hope this helps, and welcome to the newcomer.  :)

Dave



On 5/27/2021 7:19 PM, Leslie B via groups.io wrote:
Thanks for the discussion on litter boxes for Flemish Giants. It was interesting.  I have 3 neutered males and this new almost 4 month old girl. Should I wait until after she is spayed to try bonding? Also, one person said to wait 18 months to spay. Someone else said spay now. I would appreciate more guidelines. My boys are definitely marking their territory.
Thanks so much.
Leslie, Floppy, Fleas, Frith, and Fern


Re: Bonding and spaying

David L. Fisher
 

Hi Leslie -

I would definitely wait about a month AFTER spaying her before introductions - her hormones will affect her behavior and possibly mess up a potential bond.  She would probably also mark the males' territory (Tidbit, a direct rescue, was adamant about pooping in Monty's area in a 2-inch grid, even a month after her spay when I tried introductions) and Leeloo (a temporary foster, very recently spayed when I gave her a "soft landing") was adamant about peeing on the carpet near Monty's area.

I'm not surprised that your boys are marking - they can smell her hormones, and it's instinct even if they can't do anything about it.  This might also make them aggressive towards her if you don't wait for her hormones to subside.

I don't know who thinks 18 MONTHS is the right amount of time to wait - are you sure they weren't suggesting 18 weeks (which also sounds like more time than you need to allow).  I agree with the person who says "spay now" (and you have to get blood test results first to make sure she can have surgery first anyway).

Hope this helps, and welcome to the newcomer.  :)

Dave



On 5/27/2021 7:19 PM, Leslie B via groups.io wrote:
Thanks for the discussion on litter boxes for Flemish Giants. It was interesting.  I have 3 neutered males and this new almost 4 month old girl. Should I wait until after she is spayed to try bonding? Also, one person said to wait 18 months to spay. Someone else said spay now. I would appreciate more guidelines. My boys are definitely marking their territory.
Thanks so much.
Leslie, Floppy, Fleas, Frith, and Fern


Bonding and spaying

Leslie B
 

Thanks for the discussion on litter boxes for Flemish Giants. It was interesting.  I have 3 neutered males and this new almost 4 month old girl. Should I wait until after she is spayed to try bonding? Also, one person said to wait 18 months to spay. Someone else said spay now. I would appreciate more guidelines. My boys are definitely marking their territory.
Thanks so much.
Leslie, Floppy, Fleas, Frith, and Fern

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